Comments on: SAS Takes Next Steps to Cloud Analytics https://doughenschen.com/2017/04/26/sas-takes-next-steps-to-cloud-analytics/ On Analytics, Data Platforms and Smart Applications Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:04:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Microsoft Stresses Choice, From SQL Server 2017 to Azure Machine Learning | DATA TO DECISIONS https://doughenschen.com/2017/04/26/sas-takes-next-steps-to-cloud-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-1278 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:42:29 +0000 http://doughenschen.com/?p=1602#comment-1278 […] Related Reading: Oracle Differentiates its MySQL Cloud Service SAP Machine Learning Plans: A Deeper Dive From Sapphire Now SAS Takes Next Steps to Cloud Analytics […]

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]]> By: Thomas W. Dinsmore https://doughenschen.com/2017/04/26/sas-takes-next-steps-to-cloud-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:40:40 +0000 http://doughenschen.com/?p=1602#comment-1062 A dirty little secret of SAS — unless you limit your use to the legacy product, every dot release requires a migration.

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]]> By: Doug Henschen https://doughenschen.com/2017/04/26/sas-takes-next-steps-to-cloud-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:28:09 +0000 http://doughenschen.com/?p=1602#comment-1061 Indeed, switching from LASR will entail migration. I asked about migration time & effort, but the best I got was “that will depend on data scale and volume of content developed.”

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]]> By: Thomas W. Dinsmore https://doughenschen.com/2017/04/26/sas-takes-next-steps-to-cloud-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-1060 Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:18:56 +0000 http://doughenschen.com/?p=1602#comment-1060 Doug,

Excellent survey, as always. Several points:

(1) Mr. Schabenberger is sadly mistaken if he believes that open source software lacks data governance and model management capabilities.

(2) I’m not convinced that cost advantages drive open source adoption at the enterprise level. Openness, innovation, and familiarity are the key drivers. “Familiarity” since, as you note, working data scientists simply prefer to use R and Python.

(3) SAS’ positioning of Viya as “elastic” is ironic since the company does not offer elastic pricing for the product. SAS execs won’t say so, but they worry that elastic pricing will cannibalize the existing base of SAS 9 users, who far outnumber those on one of SAS’ modern architectures.

(4) Viya may be the greatest software in the history of software, but SAS has a credibility problem. As Jim Goodnight admits, Viya is SAS’ third attempt to deliver a modern software architecture. Customers who bought into products running on HPA or LASR, just discovered that they own yesterday’s beer.

(5) About half of SAS’ revenue comes from vertical and horizontal solutions. SAS ported some of its top solutions (such as AML) to LASR last year, and customers say that the transition wasn’t easy. Now, SAS is porting these solutions to yet another architecture. That should be interesting to watch.

Regards,

Thomas

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